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The Shifting Landscape: Unraveling the Mystery of Declining Attendance in In-Person CLE

Posted By Amy Ihrke, State Bar of Arizona, State and Provincial Bars SIG Co-Chair, Wednesday, February 7, 2024

The Shifting Landscape: Unraveling the Mystery of Declining Attendance in In-Person CLE

CLE classes stand as a cornerstone in the legal profession, offering practitioners the opportunity to stay abreast of evolving laws, refine their skills, and network with peers. However, a noticeable shift in attendance patterns has emerged, raising the question of why more legal professionals aren't flocking to in-person CLE classes. In this post, we unravel the factors contributing to the sparse attendance and explore the changing dynamics of legal education.

  1. The Rise of Digital Alternatives
    In an era dominated by technology, legal professionals are increasingly turning to digital platforms for their educational needs. Online CLE courses offer the convenience of learning from any location, at any time. The flexibility afforded by virtual options often outweighs the logistical challenges associated with attending in-person classes, making online courses a more attractive choice for many legal practitioners.

  2. Time Constraints and Busy Schedules
    Legal professionals lead demanding lives, often juggling multiple cases and responsibilities. The rigid schedules of in-person CLE classes may clash with the busy routines of attorneys, making it difficult for them to allocate time for physical attendance. As a result, practitioners opt for alternatives that allow them to balance professional commitments more effectively.

  3. Financial Considerations
    Attending in-person CLE classes can be financially burdensome, especially when factoring in registration fees, travel expenses, and potential time away from billable work. Online courses, on the other hand, eliminate these additional costs, providing a cost-effective solution that appeals to budget-conscious legal professionals.

  4. Globalization and Remote Work Trends
    The legal profession has witnessed a significant shift toward remote work and globalization. Legal practitioners may find themselves working on cases with international implications, making it challenging to commit to in-person classes. Online CLE options accommodate this globalized work environment, allowing professionals to continue their education without geographical constraints.

  5. Diverse Learning Styles
    People have different learning styles. While some thrive in traditional classroom settings, others may prefer the autonomy and self-paced nature of online courses. Recognizing and accommodating this diversity in learning preferences is crucial for the legal education sector to engage a broader audience.

  6. Practice-Area-Specific Preferences
    Some lawyers continue to prefer meeting in-person, especially those from smaller, more collegial practice areas like workers’ compensation. Practitioners from these types of practice areas continue to find value in seeing each other in person for CLE programming; it offers them a chance to see colleagues and learn in a group environment.

Conclusion

The sparse attendance in in-person CLE seminars can be attributed to a complex interplay of factors, ranging from technological advancements to shifting work dynamics. As the legal profession evolves, so too must the methods of delivering education. By understanding the reasons behind this trend, educators and institutions can adapt, ensuring that CLE remains a relevant and accessible resource for legal professionals navigating the complexities of their field.

Tags:  CLE  CLE seminars  digital alternative  diverse learning styles  financial considerations  in-person programs  remote work 

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Just When You Thought It was Safe to Go Back in the Water

Posted By Krisin Huotari & Gina Roers-Liemandt, Tuesday, November 23, 2021
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view from underwater

Gina:
It was 1975. Summer. And my previous carefree relationship with dipping a toe in the water changed forever with just a few notes on the piano…da-dum, da-dum, da-dum. 

Even though I lived in the midwest and was a thousand miles away from the nearest shark, I’d never even seen an ocean, and certainly shouldn’t have seen the movie—Jaws forever changed the way that I thought about swimming, survival, and scary movies. 

Looking back, adjustments I made—ensuring I could always touch bottom and run out of the water if necessary; identifying who I’d be willing to sacrifice in my bid to get away with all limbs; and having a companion who would shield me from the scariest parts of any movie scene while I created bruises as I grasped them uncomfortably tightly—were probably unnecessary. 

And then it was 2020. Spring (well, really still Winter). And my previous carefree relationship with conferences changed forever with the start of a pandemic. Da-dum, da-dum, da-dum. 

COVID-19 has now forever altered the way I think about personal interactions; facilitating engaging experiences for attendees; technology related to conferences and how it helps, hinders, and adds expense; and the varied comfort levels of all persons involved in a conference. 

Fall 2021: In-person conferences were back! We were moving ahead with plans to get attendees together in a room with speakers at a podium or table delivering educational content, albeit with new procedures and protocols in place. 

But new spikes in COVID cases, the Delta variant, and conflicting views on masks and vaccines meant that we were having to make the same (or even more) decisions about how to adjust programming to create the best experience for our attendees, while fulfilling contracts and covering expenses. Da-dum, da-dum, da-dum. 

While I had so little reason to fear that I would experience a shark attack and need to utilize the contingencies I’d planned in my head, COVID and how it changed the conference experience and the decisions I make have affected nearly every day since. 

Do we forgo the in-person conference and again move to an online only event? Do we stream the program as a hybrid event and allow an online audience to access the educational content at the same time as the in-person audience? Do we stream in remote speakers who are not allowed or able to travel to the in-person event? How do we ensure engagement with our online attendees—both with each other within the platform and with speakers and attendees at the in-person event? 

As I work with ABA staff to answer these questions for our upcoming events, I encourage you to consider the needs of your audiences as well as the parameters of your own technology and budgets when planning for your upcoming conferences. 

Kristin:
These were also the questions ACLEA contemplated when finalizing plans for the 58th Midyear Meeting, coming up January 22-24, 2022 in Austin, Texas. And this is how we answered those questions. 

Do we forgo the in-person conference and again move to an online only event? 

ACLEA had originally planned our 2021 Midyear Meeting to be held in Austin. After much negotiation, the hotel agreed to allow us to postpone the contract to 2022 or face stiff penalties for canceling. As such, ACLEA agreed to hold the upcoming 2022 Midyear Meeting in-person in Austin.

In order to fulfill the obligations of our contract, ACLEA needs to encourage as many in-person attendees to come to Austin as possible. ACLEA focused on ways to ensure the safest environment for our attendees: a vaccine mandate/negative test requirement; encouraging masks; and working with the hotel on cleaning and social distancing.  

Do we stream the program as a hybrid event and allow an online audience to access the educational content at the same time as the in-person audience? 

Working with our LMS partner CE21 and the Austin Planning Committee, ACLEA approved a virtual program to accompany the in-person event. We will stream all plenary sessions and two sessions from each breakout session throughout the event. These will also be recorded and made available to attendees to access online. 

While there is additional expense to offer an online option, ACLEA determined that it was critical to allow our entire membership access to the event, even if they did not travel to the live in-person event in Austin. ACLEA is committed to giving our members options and allowing all members the choice to not travel but still be involved with the conference and take advantage of the high-quality content that has been planned.  

Do we stream in remote speakers who are not allowed or able to travel to the in-person event? 

In determining if we should allow speakers who are not allowed or able to travel to Austin to present remotely, there were three components to our analysis: technology; expense; and most importantly, the impact on the experience of our in-person audience. 

The technology surrounding pulling in and pushing out a stream to both audiences is more complicated than it might first appear. While technology is relatively simple to do one or the other, when looking to do both at the same time (stream in speakers to the live in-person event and at the same time, incorporating those speakers into a stream out to a virtual audience) it becomes much more challenging. Since the platform has to take on a heavy load to merge the two streams for the online audience, the equipment needs in the room would be greater (large screen with both the remote speakers and slides, confidence monitor for in-person speakers to see the remote speakers). 

To both stream in speakers and stream out to a virtual audience would add considerable expense with the need for additional AV, extra staffing, and training of staff to enable. 

One of ACLEA’s largest considerations was ensuring that the in-person experience remained the focus of our final determination. How could we provide our in-person audience the benefits of live attendance that would justify the additional time and expense of traveling to Austin? What does in-person attendance look like if the speakers are streamed in remotely or pre-recorded? Would an in-person audience sitting in a room watching a video screen of remote speakers or videos provide the positive experience and benefits of other live in-person conferences? Additionally, communication between the remote speakers and in-person attendees would be difficult, and wouldn’t create the networking opportunities that are critical to being together at the event. 

Ultimately the question became a choice between streaming speakers into the Austin conference or creating a virtual event streaming content out to our members. Weighing the considerations, ACLEA determined that a virtual event in which the entire membership could benefit from the content and the interaction with colleagues better fulfills the ACLEA mission of serving continuing legal education professionals worldwide through leadership, community, education, and development.  

How do we ensure engagement with our online attendees—both with each other within the platform and with speakers and attendees at the in-person event?

We have all discovered that creating and encouraging community and networking can be especially challenging in the online and hybrid world in which we now find ourselves. ACLEA will continue to work with the planning committee and other volunteers to find new ways to engage our audiences, and create dialogue and participation across our membership. 

While it may be easier to ignore the related issues, we cannot “ignore this particular problem until it swims up and BITES US IN THE A**!”* Through analysis and discussion, ACLEA’s plan to move forward with the live in-person event with in-person speakers presenting, coupled with a virtual event streaming the majority of the content to a remote audience, will provide benefit to the largest percentage of our membership. 

Gina:
As we move through these COVID-infested waters, collaboration and open discussion are key to getting through the next conference, the next year, and the next challenge. 

Kristin:
Please join us in Austin or online with CE21 as we get back into the water!


*Jaws, Richard Dreyfuss as Hooper

Tags:  ACLEA President  COVID-19  in-person programs  Mid-Year Meeting  risk  virtual  Virtual Provider Conference 

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Everything You Do Is Marketing

Posted By Henry Lake, President, The Professional Education Group, Friday, August 27, 2021
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“Our supreme court will allow credit by online learning through the end of the year, so we’re not doing in-person programs until after January 1.” This comment has bothered me since it was proclaimed by a CLE professional in early July—before the Delta variant was much of a thing. You might think, “well, that’s an obvious path to follow.” Allow me to dispute, disagree, and rant a bit about the folly of this mindset. From a marketing point of view, this is suicidal thinking.

What is the reason given for the delay in returning people to an in-person setting? It’s not health related, nor even pedagogical in any sense. It is because credit will be allowed for the alternative virtual presentations. It is because of credit.

What are you selling? It’s the primary question we must ask ourselves every day. In the issue at hand, since the reason is that credit is allowed otherwise, then the thing they are selling is credit. Without thought to whether there is a hunger in the marketplace for some human contact (at a safe distance), the decision was made to “stay virtual.” For the umpteenth time, allow me to point out that selling credit is a fool’s mission. Credit has no intrinsic value. To sell credit is to commoditize CLE. In other words, there is no difference between a $1 hour of credit and a $100 hour of credit—in the end, no matter what the cost, the customer ends up with an hour of credit. If THAT’s what you’re selling, then, you are selling a thing that your competition can give away for free—and they do.

Now, did my friend probably mean that they had decided to take the prudent steps to delay in-person programming due to health concerns? Quite likely. But that’s not what they said, so that’s not what was foremost in their mind. And that is the caution I issue here. Do not ever let credit be a consideration in your mission. It should, of course, be a given.

What, then, should be forefront in our daily thoughts about CLE?

  • Professional improvement and advancement
  • Value—you get more out than you put in
  • Collegiality among peers
  • Access (to subject-matter experts, judges, whoever)

Everyone in your organization should have this same mindset every day. Indeed, make sure that everyone in your organization understands that CLE is the acronym for continuing legal education and not some twisted moniker for credit (as in “I got my CLEs”).

I picked up my dogeared copy of Harry Beckwith’s Selling the Invisible: A Field Guide to Modern Marketing (get it if you don’t have it; read it again if you do) to see if Harry had anything to say on the issue and found a neat little chapter. Harry and his partner were working on copy for an ad campaign and getting nowhere. On their third day of the stalemate with the page, their creative director made the comment, “If it’s this hard to write the ad, the product is flawed.” Try it yourself. Write an ad for your service. Write a six-to-twelve word headline for that ad. If it takes you three days, rethink your service. Try it. Make it an office-wide exercise. I hope you’ll be pleasantly surprised, because if you’re not, then you’ve got lots of work ahead of you! Please note that a long-ago CLE boss of mine was IN LOVE with his theme “Get the Best for Less.” Having worked at K-Mart as a youth, I just hung my head. Do better than that.

“So, Mr. Smartypants,” you rightly observe, “what should we do?” I humbly (as IF) offer the following thoughts.

Be there.

You may not be able to personally attend every event your organization produces, but somebody should. And that somebody should have the authority, the knowledge, and the backbone to immediately dispatch any problem that occurs. Give them a number if you must (you can spend up to $1,000 to make a problem go away). That person should also have the presence to greet people when they arrive and to be accessible throughout the day. Someone should embody your organization and make your guests feel welcomed and catered to—every time.

Be consistent.

Dealing with governing boards and committees has never been my strong suit, but if you are in that position, your best tactic every time a new chair comes in would be to make sure that they know that your primary job is to provide continuity through the years. Yes, the chair’s personal “most important thing” might be an important topic like diversity training, or mental health training, or some trendy theme, but they need to know that your job is to make sure that the brand is the same this year as last and it will be so next year. It would help if you had that headline from the office exercise at this point. The chair’s ideas are welcome and will be acted upon given available resources, but they cannot change the core being of your shop. It will make your job easier to set those ground rules up front.

Be collaborative.

Recognize the contributions of your staff and your peers. Give credit freely to others. It costs you nothing and gains you much. If you’re in a leadership role, remember to ask for input—and ALWAYS start with the junior member of the group, or the person in the weakest position. They may have a great idea or see a flaw with some plan, but if the group’s leaders speak first, that junior team member’s reaction will likely be “they know more than me, I should just keep my mouth shut,” and you’ll miss that great idea.

I have veered widely from my original point, which is the following. Everything you do is marketing, even if it’s providing a colleague with your reasoning for doing something. Advertising is obvious, but picking program topics and plugging them into a calendar is marketing, how you answer the phone (and ANSWERING the phone) is marketing, responding to people is marketing. Internal memos are marketing, particularly if they motivate staff to carry out the mission. And everybody needs to know the mission!

Now, my last suggestion is a reading assignment—and one that I intend to pursue myself. Read, or re-read, the aforementioned Selling the Invisible and also David Ogilvy’s Confessions of an Advertising Man. What you will find in those pages will serve you far beyond your next project.


Henry Lake is President of The Professional Education Group. Prior to his run at P.E.G.®, he served as both Media Director and as Program Director for the South Carolina Bar CLE Division. Henry has served on the ACLEA Executive Committee and was Chair of the Santa Barbara Mid-Year Meeting – you’ll have to look up the year, he’s forgotten. Yes, at that meeting, Henry was responsible for Bodine Belasco, Comedy Magician and for the introduction of the Three Meat Closing Event Buffet. It was his high-water mark.

Tags:  CLE  in-person programs  online training  pandemic 

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ACLEA President’s Column – February 2021

Posted By Alexandra Wong, ACLEA President, Friday, February 12, 2021
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It was great to have many familiar and new faces join us at last month’s virtual conference. Despite the ongoing global pandemic, I am grateful that through technology and heavy schedules, we were able to get together to share and learn over three days via our LMS Powered by CE21 and Remo.

A few things struck me as common top-of-mind questions heading into 2021 for all of us. With a lot of uncertainty still, the gradual rollout of the vaccine and appearance of new and strong strains of the coronavirus, a lot of us are faced with several questions. When is the right time to return to in-person programming? Are we looking at a hybrid type of solution going forward? Do you stay on a completely virtual course for at least a year if not longer? What safety precautions are needed for an in-person format? How do you provide a similar if not better user experience for those attending virtually versus in-person?  How many people will attend in-person programs? How do you market in-person programs?

These are just some of many questions on all our minds. We are all at different stages of delivering programs, along with different levels of technical solutions/formats/sophistication, however, it is clear all our stakeholders continue to receive much valued content in order to continue to provide services to their clients.

With the pandemic, our stakeholder’s preferences on attending programs will almost certainly change.  A year later, they are all used to an on-line format, be it live webcast or on-demand recording.

For those of us who host programs at venues such as hotels and or convention centres, the number of attendees the facility was previously able to accommodate pre-COVID has changed due to public health regulations/guidelines and social distancing requirements. Given the lessons learned when the pandemic started a year ago, a lot of us are hesitant to enter into contracts with venues or are putting together contracts with stronger force majeure/impossibility clauses.

There will be a lot of additional considerations in determining the most appropriate solutions, especially with respect to financial costs and number of attendees the venues can accommodate in this new normal. Almost certainly, the added costs of cleaning and sanitation at venues plus the drastic changes to food and beverage operations will be costs that will be passed down to us from the venues. We will all need to determine/project how many people will attend in-person programs again. Not an easy task; some practice areas may return to in-person formats more quickly then others or will prefer to remain in a virtual format.

The best approach may be to survey your attendees or members to gauge what they will be most comfortable with and or when is the earliest they would consider attending a program in-person. In addition, you may consider asking what concerns, if any, do they may have with attending in-person programs. The data will most certainly assist us to make an informed decision, but new developments in the world, may have an impact on the data (e.g. more variant strains of the virus, cases increasing, vaccine shortages, etc.)

Room setup for events will be different with social distancing requirements. The look and feel will be different and may not be conducive to CLE programs. In-person networking in the new normal will be a big challenge no doubt. 

Hybrid solutions will have all of us being more creative in our delivery methods. The challenge will be to ensure the virtual experience is the same, if not better to the in-person experience.

Hoping that over the next few months, things will continue to get better and we will be dealing with less uncertainty. I encourage everyone to continue to keep in touch with each other by sharing best practices and new ideas, or even just to check in to see how everyone is doing.

Take care of yourselves, your families, and each other.

Stay safe and keep well.
A.

Tags:  ACLEA President  in-person programs  pandemic  virtual events 

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